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  Don't Give Up (song)

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

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  don't give up by pimo gabriel & aposkate bush.

  "don't give up".

  pimo: in this proud faith we grew up strongwe were wanted all alongi was taught to speak, taught to preachi never thought i could failno truth left or so it seemsi am a man whose dreams have all desertedthey've changed my mags, they've changed my songsbut no one wants you when you're oldaposkate: don't give up'cos you have friendsdon't give upyou're not beaten yetdon't give upi know you can make it goodpimo: though i saw it all aroundnever thought i could be affectedthought that we'd be the last to goit is so strange the way things turndrove the night toward my homethe place that i was born, on the lakesideas daylight broke, i saw ttattthe gb had sold us down the riveraposkate: don't give upyou still have usdon't give upwe don't need much of anythingdon't give up'cause somewhere there's a placewhere we belongrest your headyou worry too muchit's going to be alrightwhen times get roughyou can fall back on usdon't give upplease don't give uppimo: 'got to walk out of herei can't take any moregoing to sign on that sitekeep my eyes down belowwhatever may comeand whatever may gothat forum's growingthat forum's growingmoved on to another congtried hard to settle downfor every job, so many menso many men no-one needsaposkate: don't give up'cause you have friendsdon't give upyou're not the only onedon't give upno reason to be ashameddon't give upyou still have usdon't give up nowwe're proud of who you aredon't give upyou know it's never been easydon't give up'cause i believe there's a placethere's a place where we belong .

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  I'm hoping next year's theme will be "Stairway to Heaven"

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  Don't Give Up (song)

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

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  don't give up by pimo gabriel & aposkate bush.

  "don't give up".

  pimo: in this proud faith we grew up strongwe were wanted all alongi was taught to speak, taught to preachi never thought i could failno truth left or so it seemsi am a man whose dreams have all desertedthey've changed my mags, they've changed my songsbut no one wants you when you're oldaposkate: don't give up'cos you have friendsdon't give upyou're not beaten yetdon't give upi know you can make it goodpimo: though i saw it all aroundnever thought i could be affectedthought that we'd be the last to goit is so strange the way things turndrove the night toward my homethe place that i was born, on the lakesideas daylight broke, i saw ttattthe gb had sold us down the riveraposkate: don't give upyou still have usdon't give upwe don't need much of anythingdon't give up'cause somewhere there's a placewhere we belongrest your headyou worry too muchit's going to be alrightwhen times get roughyou can fall back on usdon't give upplease don't give uppimo: 'got to walk out of herei can't take any moregoing to sign on that sitekeep my eyes down belowwhatever may comeand whatever may gothat forum's growingthat forum's growingmoved on to another congtried hard to settle downfor every job, so many menso many men no-one needsaposkate: don't give up'cause you have friendsdon't give upyou're not the only onedon't give upno reason to be ashameddon't give upyou still have usdon't give up nowwe're proud of who you aredon't give upyou know it's never been easydon't give up'cause i believe there's a placethere's a place where we belong .

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  Don't Give Up by PIMO Gabriel & Aposkate Bush

  "Don't Give Up"

  PIMO: In this proud faith we grew up strong
  we were wanted all along
  I was taught to speak, taught to preach
  I never thought I could fail
  
  no truth left or so it seems
  I am a man whose dreams have all deserted
  They've changed my mags, They've changed my songs
  but no one wants you when you're old
  
  APOSKATE: don't give up
  'cos you have friends
  don't give up
  you're not beaten yet
  don't give up
  I know you can make it good
  
  PIMO: though I saw it all around
  never thought I could be affected
  thought that we'd be the last to go
  it is so strange the way things turn
  
  drove the night toward my home
  the place that I was born, on the lakeside
  as daylight broke, I saw TTATT
  the GB had sold us down the river
  
  APOSKATE: don't give up
  you still have us
  don't give up
  we don't need much of anything
  don't give up
  'cause somewhere there's a place
  where we belong
  
  rest your head
  you worry too much
  it's going to be alright
  when times get rough
  you can fall back on us
  don't give up
  please don't give up
  
  PIMO: 'got to walk out of here
  I can't take any more
  going to sign on that site
  keep my eyes down below
  whatever may come
  and whatever may go
  that forum's growing
  that forum's growing
  
  moved on to another cong
  tried hard to settle down
  for every job, so many men
  so many men no-one needs
  
  APOSKATE: don't give up
  'cause you have friends
  don't give up
  you're not the only one
  don't give up
  no reason to be ashamed
  don't give up
  you still have us
  don't give up now
  we're proud of who you are
  don't give up
  you know it's never been easy
  don't give up
  'cause I believe there's a place
  there's a place where we belong

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  Realistic depiction of exJW on tv

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

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  i recently watched a series which was broadcast a year ago on uk channel 4 called dicte - an import from denmark.

  the main character is a journalist, but it is revealed in the first 5 minutes that she was brought up as a jw.

  when she was in her teens, she had a baby which was removed from her.

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  I've only seen the first series so far. Good to know someone else shares my taste.

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  Realistic depiction of exJW on tv

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i recently watched a series which was broadcast a year ago on uk channel 4 called dicte - an import from denmark.

  the main character is a journalist, but it is revealed in the first 5 minutes that she was brought up as a jw.

  when she was in her teens, she had a baby which was removed from her.

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  I recently watched a series which was broadcast a year ago on UK Channel 4 called Dicte - an import from Denmark. The main character is a journalist, but it is revealed in the first 5 minutes that she was brought up as a JW. When she was in her teens, she had a baby which was removed from her. Now she is grown up, her parents shun her. It is shown quite accurately - at one point she goes to their house and they shut the door in her face without speaking. When she says she has only come to collect something, they return, hand it to her and shut the door again. Her experiences are referred to several times through the series.

  Anyone else see it (still available on catchup) or anything else which shows how exJWs are treated.

  The show is good, BTW, though not up to the standard of The Bridge or The Killing for fans of scandinoir.

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  Latest elders meeting during circuit visit

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those not aware:- during the circuit visit there is a meeting with elders &ministerial servants based on an outline.

  the mss are dismissed then local matters (eg new elders, meeting attendance etc) are discussed.

  recently there has also been a part of the outline just for elders - one year it was about stopping anyone dressing in a "gender blurring" way from going on the ministry.. the latest visit has a section of the outline for elders.

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  Freddo - MS outline was the usual sort of stuff - set a good example in bible study, helping own family, build trust in Jehovah & his org, balance secular & theocratic responsibilities and take the lead in field ministry.

  Yoko - this is from the UK but is probably the same everywhere.

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  Latest elders meeting during circuit visit

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those not aware:- during the circuit visit there is a meeting with elders &ministerial servants based on an outline.

  the mss are dismissed then local matters (eg new elders, meeting attendance etc) are discussed.

  recently there has also been a part of the outline just for elders - one year it was about stopping anyone dressing in a "gender blurring" way from going on the ministry.. the latest visit has a section of the outline for elders.

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  For those not aware:- During the circuit visit there is a meeting with elders &ministerial servants based on an outline. The MSs are dismissed then local matters (eg new elders, meeting attendance etc) are discussed. Recently there has also been a part of the outline just for elders - one year it was about stopping anyone dressing in a "gender blurring" way from going on the ministry.

  The latest visit has a section of the outline for elders. There are two main points in it - KS10 (elders book) ch4 para 20 about separation being a personal issue ie don't interfere and also a point about handling cases of child abuse. Bearing in mind the ARC and all of the other issues what do you think they want to emphasize? The answer is "What to do if an abuser or suspected abuser moves congregation" The BOE 2016-08-01 letter paragraph 21 was read in full and that was it!!

  The text reads -"21. Moving to Another Congregation: When an individual who has been accused of child sexual abuse (established or not) moves to another congregation, two elders from the congregation the individual moves from should immediately call the Legal Department. The elders should be prepared to provide the name of the new congregation, if known. This should be done even if the individual is disfellowshipped or is in prison and is transferred to another facility or is released. The Congregation Service Committee should not send any information to the new congregation until after receiving legal advice from the Legal Department and direction from the Service Department."

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  Interesting conversation with a JDub regarding kingdom songs.

  by joe134cd in

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  2. experiences

  was out side a jdubs house while they were playing kingdom songs.

  this is how the conversation went.. me: did you realize that one of their kingdom songs was a copy from the jurassic park theme song.. jdub: where did you find this.

  me: hey i've got the down load to the movie, and that theme song has a striking resemblance to that song you just played.

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  I can't remember the title of the kingdom song (from the brown songbook) but it was a note for note copy of a song by Queen - "Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon" from "A Night at the Opera". Most JWs enjoyed singing the song because it was actually good without realising why.

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  January 19, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN WALES Re: Prerecorded Memorial and Special Talk 2017 - Welsh

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  january 19, 2017 to all bodies of elders in wales re: prerecorded memorial and special talk 2017 - welsh.

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  Similar letters have been released for Scottish Gaelic, Somali and British Sign Language

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  help me think like an elder

  by Homer notsimpson in

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  2. friends

  ok guys, i have been tasked to ask for your opinions regarding this case.. and be honest.

  my brother sexted a girl a little over a year ago, they never dated, and she got mad at him.... she got engaged and the engagement ended in august.. she attempted suicide, then talked to the elders an told him she was gonna tell on him too, now that was in august, the sister told my brother that since she didn't know his hall they couldn't do anything.. we found that doesn't seem right, so hes been freaking out, but ita now two days away from 2017 and the elders haven't speaked to him yet.. why could that be?

  could they give him all this time to confess?

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  "think like an elder" - isn't that an oxymoron?

  Seriously though, as an elder, my advice would definitely be to deny everything - the burden of proof is on them. Unfortunately this is also true in child abuse cases.

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  Possible new light on 70 years

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i may be reading more into this than is there, but here is what i've spotted from today's watchtower study (oct 2016 study edition) page 14 paragraph 8. concerning daniel it says "thus, some 70 years after his arrival in babylon, he was still known by his hebrew name" referring to an event in the first year of darius ie 539/538 bce.

  however, according to the wtbts chronology daniel went to babylon in 617 bce - more like 80 years earlier.

  could this (finally) be a step towards ditching 607?.

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  I may be reading more into this than is there, but here is what I've spotted from today's watchtower study (Oct 2016 study edition) page 14 paragraph 8. Concerning Daniel it says "Thus, some 70 years after his arrival in Babylon, he was still known by his Hebrew name" referring to an event in the first year of Darius ie 539/538 BCE. However, according to the WTBTS chronology Daniel went to Babylon in 617 BCE - more like 80 years earlier. Could this (finally) be a step towards ditching 607?

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